Itt az ideje, hogy a srácokat a TOKIO HOTEL-ből komolyan vegyék és ne csak mint tini-bandát emlegessék a hatalmas európai és az egyesült államokbeli sikerek után. A Miss az ikrekkel, Bill és Tom Kaulitz-al beszélt a lányokról, a testvéri szeretetről és a drogproblémákról.
Nem találjátok félelmetesnek, milyen híresek vagytok?
Tom: Nem félünk. Nem magától érthető, hogy mint német banda nemzetközi hírnevet szereztünk. Végül is inkább büszkék vagyunk.
Mikor csalódtatok először a sztárságot illetően?
Bill: A zene bizniszben egyszerűen van egy dolog, ami ellen a mai napig küzdünk. Szabályok, amikkel az embereket le kell nyűgözni. Vagy amikor az első dolgokat olvastuk magunkról az újságban, amiket nem is mondtunk. Ezen még fiatal emberként csak néztünk. De gyorsan megtanultuk, hogy kezeljük.
Egy ismert pletykalap fotókat mutatott be a nyaralásotokról. Ez némiképp megsérti a privát szférátokat?
Bill: Ezzel már 100%-ig átlépték a határt! Állatira felidegesített. Olyan nehézzé teszik az életet, ahogyan csak lehetséges. Ez az egy dolog, amihez sohasem fogok hozzászokni.
Mi volt a legképtelenebb dolog, amit valaha is mondtak?
Bill: A hotelszobában való öngyilkosság... - nehéz kimondani, de már minden volt.
Bill, azt mondtad egyszer, hogy utálod a mindennapokat. Egy bandában játszani tulajdonképpen nem egy rutinszerű dolog?
Bill: Persze vannak dolgok, amik egy kicsit unalmasak, de legeslegvégül van olyan munka is, ami hihetetlenül változatos. Soha nem tudhatod, milyen lesz a nap. Ebből a szempontból ez a változatos szakma, amit el tudok képzelni.
Ezzel szemben az iskolába, egy igazi rendbontó voltál. Honnan jött ez a korai önbizalom?
Bill: Mi az első naptól kezdve stresszelve voltunk. Jöttünk az iskolából és azt mondtuk, soha többé nem akarunk visszamenni oda. Számunkra az iskola abszolút horrorisztikus volt. Gondunk volt a tanárokkal és állandóan büntetésben voltunk. De természetesen nem könnyített rajtunk a megjelenésünk. Csak: Mi egyszerűen nem akartunk megfelelni. Ezért költözünk el, ahogyan akartuk, mivel abban a tartományban már földönkívülinek érzetük magunkat. A magabiztosság biztosan onnan jött, hogy mi mindig együtt voltunk.
Ráadásul ugyan azzal a lánnyal éltétek át az első csókot. Nem voltatok sohasem féltékenyek?
Tom: Billt kérdezzétek, mert mindig én voltam az első, akinek barátnője volt (nevet). Bill: A lányok miatt sohasem veszekedtünk. Tom: Sohasem voltunk olyan durván szerelmesek ugyan abba a lányba. Bill: Nincs senki, aki közénk állhatna, senki, aki fontosabb lehet, mint a kapcsolatunk. Persze vitatkozunk, világosan, Tom és én mindketten rendkívül makacsok és magabiztosak vagyunk. Csak azért, mert annyira hasonlóak vagyunk. Nem tudunk igazat adni a másiknak. Ha veszekedünk, a többiek inkább kimennek a helyiségből.
Ti mindig szóba elegyedtek...
Bill: Mindenki más számára nehéz jelen lenni, ha Tom és én szórakozunk. A barátaink már hozzászoktak, hogy hangosan beszéljenek és hogy belevonjanak a beszélgetésbe, különben nincs esélyük.
Együtt éltek Hamburgban, szinte éjjel-nappal együtt vagytok. Soha nem mentek egymás idegeire?
Tom: 24 órán át együtt vagyunk, vagyis nem egészen, mert külön szobában alszunk. De ez egyáltalán nem idegesít minket.
Mindenki mindig azt mondja: Egyszer saját talpra kell állni. És mi van, ha az egyiknek egyszer egy barátnője lesz vagy másik városba akar költözni. De mi nem tesszük fel magunknak ezeket a kérdéseket, mert mindig egyértelmű volt, hogy együtt vagyunk. Ez egy speciális kötelék, ami az egypetéjű ikrek között van. Ezt nehéz leírni, valójában olyanok vagyunk, mintha egy ember lennénk. Ha arra gondolnék, hogy el kellene költözni, alap lenne, hogy Bill is oda költözik velem. Bill: Egyszerűen úgy gondolkodunk, mint a másik.
Zene terén is egy hullámhosszon mozogtok?
Bill: Azt hiszem, mindkettőnknek jó érzéke van ahhoz, hogy melyik dal jó, függetlenül a saját zenei ízlésünktől. Azonban különböző zenét hallgatunk, Tom egy csomó hip-hop-ot hallgat. Kevés olyan zenekar van, amit mindketten jónak találunk, mint például a Stereophonics és az Aerosmith.
Sok nagy banda gyorsan lezavarja az interjút. Hogy jött ez, hogy ti ilyen nyíltak vagytok?
Bill: Nekünk a Tokio Hotel nem csak egy munka. Ez az életünk. Hisz mi akkor is Bill és Tom Kaulitz vagyunk, ha lejövünk a színpadról. Esténként nem a laptop-on lógunk és nem bulizunk. Persze vannak határai, hogy mennyire legyünk nyitottak, de én a rossz dolgokról is akarok beszélni, ahelyett hogy pusztán azt mondanám, minden mindig olyan menő. Azt hiszem, jó hogy az emberek reális betekintést adunk az egészbe.
Tokio Hotel a legsikeresebb német bandákhoz tartozik. Mi van még hátra?
Tom: Tervezzük, hogy a mostani turné után Ázsiába megyünk, Japánba, és aztán csinálunk egy turnét Latin Amerikában.
Nehéz még célokat találni, nálunk minden a nulláról indult és a százra jutott. De küzdöttünk még a szabadságért is, hogy bizonyos dolgokat le tudjunk szarni, és más emberek véleményére is. Csak tesszük a dolgunkat.
Függővé tesz a hírnév?
Tom: Abszolút. Ha a nyilvánosságban élsz, mint mi, nincs visszaút. Bizonyos szempontból függsz tőle. Az ötlet, hogy "Hmm, talán nem akarok többé ismert lenni" nem létezik.
Gondoljátok, hogy már elégedettek vagytok vagy akartok még mindig valamit?
Bill: Fejben mindig tovább megy az ember, új dal és videó ötletei lesznek. Minden alkalommal megpróbálunk jobbak lenni, mint azelőtt.
A fellépések előtt egyáltalán még izgatottak vagytok?
Bill: A koncertek előtt nem vagyok valami beszédes, akár csak korábban. Amikor a színpadon vagyok, az izgalom eltűnik.
Rejtőzik még bizonytalanság a kitalált Bill Kaulitz mögött?
Bill: Nem úgy látom magam, mint egy kitalált karakter. Ha privátban találkoznak vele, ugyan úgy nézek ki, mint a piros szőnyegen, de ez csak akkor van, ha nem akarom ismeretlen maradjak. Nem akarok a nyilvánosságban egy őrült és extrém megjelenést. Egyszerűen ez vagyok én. Így szeretném viselni a hajam és a sminkem, ha valami mást csinálok.
“The World is not enough”
After their huge success in Europe and in the US it’s time to take the four boys of Tokio Hotel seriously and not to dismiss them as a Teen-Band. ‘MISS’ interviewed the twins Bill and Tom Kaulitz and talked with them about girls, brotherly love and having success as a drug.
Doesn’t the fact of how successful you already are scare you?
Tom: It doesn’t scare us. For a german Band it’s not natural to be this sucessful. We’re rather proud than scared.
When did being a celebrity disappoint you for the first time?
Bill: There are a lot of things against which we still fight in the music business. Rules, that other people want to impress on us. Or when we read the first articles about us in the newspapers, which stated things we didn’t even say. As a young person you’re overwhelmed with all this, but we learned to cope with it.
A known tabloid printed some vacation pictures of you. Do things like that violate your privacy?
Bill: The line has been crossed to 100% when this happens! I’m still mad about this. We also try to make their – the people who were in charge this – lifes as difficult as possible. That’s such a thing which I’ll never get used to.
What was the most absurd thing that’s ever been written about you?
Bill: From suicide in a hotel room ’til… – it’s hard to say, I think almost everything’s been written about us by now.
Bill, you once stated that you hate a daily routine. Isn’t playing in a Band by now also a routine for you?
Bill: Sure, there are some processes which are a bit boring, but there’s never a dull moment in this job. You never know how a day will end – so it’s the most multifaceted I can think of.
In contrary to school, where you’ve been a real troublemaker. Where did you get this early self-confidence from?
Bill: We didn’t get along with the people. We came back from school and said that we never wanted to go there again. Going to school was the most horrendous thing for us. We got in trouble with out teachers and constantly got transfered because of disciplinary reasons. But also our appearance didn’t make our life easier. Just: We didn’t want to pretend being someone other than what we are. That’s why we dressed how we wanted, and this in the deepest province – you kind of feel like an alien. The self-confidence has always been there because we were together. That’s why the other kids never catched us alone to beat the crap out of us.
You experienced your first kiss with the same girl. Have you ever been jealous of the other?
Tom: You have to ask Bill this question, because I was always the first one to get the girl (laughs). Bill: We never fought about girls. Tom: And we never really fell in love with the same girl. Bill: There’s no one who could seperate us, no person that could be more important than our relationship. Sure, we fight, Tom and I are both very self-confident and stubborn. Exactly because of our similar personaly we often clash. No one of us wants to cave in. When we start to fight the others leave us alone and get out of the room.
You constantly interrupt each other while talking…
Bill: It’s hard for the others to intervene when Tom and I talk with each other. Our friends accustomed to talk as loudly as us and to interrupt us when we’re talking, because they have no other chance to get noticed when we’re talking.
You’re living together in Hamburg, so you sort of spend 24/7 together. Don’t you annoy each other?
Tom: We’re together for 24 hours a day, but also not really because we sleep in seperate rooms. But it doesn’t annoy us. Everyone always says: Doesn’t it annoy you to spend 24/7 together and things like ‘What if one of you’ll have a girlfriend’ or ‘What will you do if one of you wants to move into an other city’. We aren’t asking those questions ourselves, because it has always been clear to us that we’ll stay together. It’s a special bond which identical twins have. It’s hard to describe it, actually we’re one person. When I would think about moving, it would be clear for me that Bill would come with me. Bill: We automatically start thinking for the other one.
Are you musically on the same level?
Bill: I think that both of us have a good feeling when it comes to noticing a good song, independent from our personal musical taste. We listen to differen music in private; Tom listens to a lot of Hip-Hop music. There are just a few bands which both of us like, for example the Stereophonics and Aerosmith.
A lot of famous Bands clam up very fast during interviews. How come that you’re so open?
Bill: Tokio Hotel has never been just a job for us. It’s our life. We’re still Bill and Tom Kaulitz when we get off the stage. We don’t just shut down our laptops and call it a day. Sure, when it comes to being open there are lines that shouldn’t be crossed, but I also want to tell people about bad things that happened, rather than to always say that it’s cool. I think it’s good to give the people a realistic insight into our whole career.
Tokio Hotel is one of the most successful german Bands. What is yet to come?
Tom: After our current Tour is over we want to tour through Asia – to Japan and a latin american Tour. It’s hard to set goals, since our whole career started so suddenly. But we fought for those bits of freedom, and we’re doing our thing. We don’t need other peoples opinion.
Is fame addicting?
Tom: Yes. When you’re in the public eye, like us, then there’s no way back. In a way you’re kind of addicted to it. You don’t have the option to say “Hm, maybe I don’t want to be famous anymore”.
Do you think that you’ll ever be satisfied with the things you achieved, or are craving for even more?
Bill: Your mind doesn’t stop thinking, you start coming up with new ideas or Songs for a Video. We always try to be better than the times before.
Are you still excited before you perform?
Bill: I’m really, really nervous before concerts, this never changed. But as soon as I’m on the stage this nervouseness is gone.
Is there a certain uncertainity behind the artificial character Bill Kaulitz? Bill: I don’t think of myself as an articficial character. When you meet me privately I look the same as on the red carpet, unless I want to stay igcognito. I don’t try to look even more extreme in public. That’s just me. I would always wear the hair and the make-up like thism while doing something else.
Click for the Hungarian translation! / Katt a magyarért =)
In bed with Tokio Hotel The German band who drives little girls crazy (but for how long?) is coming to Italy on tour. Guess where we interviewed them?
Hands up anyone who remembers a Tokio Hotel song. If you attend middle school you'll probably be appalled right now since you know by heart every single word. If you are older than 15, you'll be perplexed. At most someone could sing "na-na-na-na monsoon". If you belong to the first group you're impatiently waiting for one of the next four Italian gigs. If you belong to the second one, prepare yourself to see well-known scenes in the newscast: little girls screaming for four guys in their twenties (one with make-up and a strange haircut, one with braids who looks like a rapper, one with short hair and one with long hair). They are Tokio Hotel, the German band who've sold the most records during the last few years (three millions of albums sold all over the world, 700.000 just with the most recent one, Humanoid, released last October). Even if insiders say that the band's popularity is dwindling (the four dates are not sold out like two years ago), even if the American Rolling Stone has reviewed their new album saying that it is "melodically anemic and strangely low-key", even if Google Trends (a feature which provides insights into broad search patterns on web) testifies that the search of the word "Tokio Hotel" is decreasing and even if on Facebook the group called "this aubergine has more fans than Tokio Hotel" has accomplished its mission - the four boys from Magdeburg are still conquering thousands of infatuated teenagers who are ready for anything.
The boys fit their roles perfectly. When we meet them in a luxurious hotel suite, Bill Kaulitz - the singer - enters, greets, comes to an halt, widens his legs and he starts posing in front of the photographer with a continuous change of facial expressions (enigmatic stare - a little less enigmatic stare - cryptic stare - a little less cryptic stare) - even Ben Stiller in Zoolander can’t do better! Too bad the photographer is still maneuvering with flashes and computers. The manager tells Bill that the photoshoot is yet to start. Bill says "Ok" and heads toward the make-up artist (Nathalie) who retouches his foundation.
In the meantime - knowing that Nathalie plays a key role for the band thanks to her skills with hairspray, blush and pencils - we ask her how long she has been working with Tokio Hotel. She moves away laughing and ending the conversation with a "No comment", "It's a secret", "It's a mystery". As if it were the fourth secret of Fatima... I’m told it's normal. An urban legend tells that she had a relationship with Bill - someone denies it and says this is just a covering for his alleged homosexuality which would let his young female fans down, whereas others say it's true but he doesn't admit it for the same reason, namely not to disappoint his fans. After all, in every single interview it's told that he is looking for a girl to fall in love with, Tom falls for a different girl every night, Gustav is single and Georg is the only one who’s had a girlfriend, for a year.
After the photoshoot - which they undergo with seriousness and compliance, with a German-Japanese attitude which fits their name - they lie down on a double bed in the room next door. They invite me to sit with them and to make the interview on the mattress every fan would kill for.
Bill, you're the girls' idol, but the songwriter of your lyrics as well. The second single, World Behind My Wall, says: "Wanna wake up in a dream". How is your world behind the façade?
Bill: A very lucky world. I’ve got a family, my four dogs, my brother Tom, the band and my job. But at the same time it's difficult to find the same happiness in the world outside - I realize mine is quite an ecceptional case.
Your album is called Humanoid, on its cover there's a Bill-robot and in many songs you underline this theme: you're not robots, but people with a heart.
Bill: Many people just looked at the cover and thought that we wanted to play "robots". Honestly, we thought to name the album like this because we feel like "humanoids", i.e. "human-like". We feel strange, different. In Alien I sing "There's an alien in me", but - to be honest - I'm singing about the search of love, about the union with your other half. In every song we talk about emotions and childhood memories, we're sentimental and totally human.
Talking about aliens, you have said you believe in Martians.
Bill: I believe in many things, even if I don't follow a specific religion. I'm sure that there's life beyond death or on other planets. And I strongly believe in fate. Me and my brother doing this job was written in fate, we’ve loved music since we were kids.
Apart from yours, what music do you like? Where does your inspiration come from?
Tom: I like Stereophonics. Gustav: I listen to Metallica. But on the right calf I have tattooed a sentence by Johnny Cash, whom I really like.
And?
Tom: You know, honestly, we’ve got little time to listen to music. We're always on the road playing our music and at the end of the day our ears can’t take any more.
Do you ever have any breaks?
Bill: Never. Actually, even reading a book or a magazine is impossible.
Talking about readings, Bill, you left middle school. Aren't you interested in learning something more?
Bill: I've not taken a diploma because at that time I was already writing our first album and I don't know if I’ll ever take the diploma. Now I'm Tokio Hotel frontman, that's what I'm doing and I have a lot of fun. Tom: I don’t feel like getting one right now, I'm not interested. But I assure you we can write, read and count. Gustav: I've taken my diploma in professional studies through an online-school. Maybe one day I'll continue my studies... But at the moment we're focused on the band, you know. It's like our dream has finally come true and we want to carry it out. For our fans, too.
Gustav, last year you were attacked in a club, whereas Tom allegedly punched a girl who asked him for an autograph. What's happening to you?
Gustav: It seems incredible, but even I get recognized like a Tokio Hotel member. That's why that night a guy in a club wanted to express how little he liked the band - let's put it like that - and he smashed a beer mug on my head. Tom: As in my case, lot of lies have been written. I’ve never hit a woman. Actually, I’ve had an argument with somebody on my way back home. However, they weren’t fans asking for an autograph, but girls I knew and they didn’t exactly have good intentions. You know, it was a private matter. This is also the proof we can’t go out without bodyguards, even when we’re not working.
Well, to avoid being assaulted, now you should…
Bill: Set your heart at rest: we’re not going to give up.
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